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Thursday, June 15, 2006

Beyond Reason and Law

The ' therapeutic payments ', term used by Peter Kinsey on behalf of the Surrey and Borders NHS Trust has a specific legal meaning in an employment and training context. Let's look at how Mr Kinsey uses the term again in his e-mail to all those who criticised his Trust's decision to cut the £3 a day wages of the Old Moat garden centre staff to nothing.

"Thank you for emailing me to express your views regarding this matter. This is a local issue in eastern Surrey which we are discussing with our stake-holders. Changes to therapeutic payments are part of a larger change project which we are undertaking to modernise and improve employment services for people with mental health problems in line with recognised best practice. Those changes have been discussed extensively with our staff and people who use our services."

Peter Kinsey

Director of Operations

In fact the ' therapeutic payments or earnings ' scheme was run by the DWP and in 2002/3 updated to the new ' permitted work or earnings ' scheme which was targetted at ( but not limited to ) disabled people on benefits who would take some time or help getting into mainstream work or who werent likely to ever get into a sustainable mainstream job at all but who would benefit from activity in some work-like environment with a social theme.

For example, somewhere like S&BP's showcase Old Moat garden centre in Epson Surrey.

(Search for it on Google earth as it is now listed.)

The ' Permitted Work ' scheme is complex and not particularly well thought out however if S&BP's disabled workers were previously on 'therapeutic payments ' 'modernisation' would require them to be treated under the new 'Permitted Work' scheme rules but this has not happened as it seems S&BP or more specifically its commercial arm ' Priority Enterprises' is operating outside of the law and simply using the now legally outdated term ' therapeutic payments' as a way of sidestepping paying S&BP's disabled garden centre workers.

Priority Enterprises has to act in accordance with employment legislation but its not doing that here, Peter Kinsey has applied a self-serving and meaningless category on the garden centre workers as a means to say, " Well we used to pay our workers 'therapeutic payments' of £3 a day but now we have decided to cut these payments to nothing with the expectation that our workers, some of whom have worked for us on a near permanent basis, can now be re-categorised as trainees and we can simply go on exploiting their labour and them without any regard for Employment regulations, the Law at all or you because we are a large NHS Trust and we can get away with operating outside of the law. "

Here's the rub, if S&BP was paying its garden centre workers outside of the DWP's old ' Therapeutic Earnings ' scheme then it has always been operating outside of the law in its dealings with the garden centre workers, as part of the reason why that scheme existed was to prevent employers like S&BP abusing disabled workers on benefits in the workplace.

Fiona Edwards , the Chief Executive of the Surrey and Borders NHS Trust has refused to discuss this issue with us and as we see from Peter Kinsey's response and Priority Enterprises refusal to respond to Jill G's questions , Surrey and Borders have slipped over into anti-liability mode, they have robbed the disabled workers who service their showpiece commercial garden centre of the pittance they were paying them outside of the law but now refuse to make their actions available for public scrutiny.

We have asked the Surrey and Borders PPI to take up this issue and will also be pursuing the matter with the DWP.

5 Comments:

At 1:03 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For £100,000 and £120,000 a year salaries you'd think they would be able to answer our emails and questions quickly. It seems to me that these bosses are deliberately avoiding answering us.
Perhaps if they had the threat of having their own salaries cut to nothing like the garden centre workers they would find that 'therapeutic' enough to answer us quicker...

 
At 1:48 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I rang the minimum wage helpline and was told that there are certain exemtions in the minimum wage law for 'therapeutic work'. The woman told me she could say if the garden centre would count as an exceptions so she gave me the email for their central information unit. So I emailed them the following:
To Central Information Unit

National Minimum Wage

Dear Sir or Madam

I am involved in a campaign against Surrey and Borders NHS Partnership who have recently cut the £3 a day wages to disabled staff at a garden centre it runs down to nothing. I want to know if they are in breach of minimum wage
legislation? I rang your helpline and was given your email address because apparently there are different rules and certain exemptions in the Minimum Wage
rules for what is called 'therapeutic work'. Could you please give me all the details
these exemptions and how I can tell whether or not this garden centre constitutes
'therapeutic' work. It is said to be run as a commercial enterprise.

I and others feel that these workers have been being used as cheap labour and now they are being
used as unpaid labour. We do not think it is fair and have a campaign to get justice for
these workers on:

http://justice4sabtworkers.blogspot.com/

All the details of the case are there and the original story which drew our attention to this issue is on

http://justice4sabtworkers.blogspot.com/2006/06/surrey-borders-nhs-trust-cuts-disabled.html

As you will see a lot of people may be affected by this £3 a day cut because Priority Enterprises which runs the Garden Centre for the NHS also runs a lot of other businesses using disabled workers.

Please help by giving me clear information regarding the law.

Yours Sincerely

Jill Goble

I have had a response giving me a case number and saying that they will reply within 5 working days.

 
At 5:16 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a response from Patrick McCullagh , Surrey and Borders NHS Trust's Head of Communications .

It has taken Patrick almost a week to respond and he seems only to be doing so under duress. His statement - no doubt approved by S&BP CE Fiona Edwards - confirms that

1) the Trust's garden centre workers were never consulted 2) that a system of very low unlawful payments has been in operation at the Old Moat Garden Centre for some time and 3) that the reason these payments were stopped rather than lawfully reconfigured under the 'Permitted Earnings' scheme was to suit the politically correct ideas of Surrey and Borders Trust management as this Top Down ' change ' was never in the interest of the garden centre workers, how could it have been ?it deprived them of the pittance S&BP paid them.

If disabled people are working in a commercial enterprise for any length of time, they should be properly employed or , if on benefits, receive permitted earnings. Here Surrey & Borders NHS Trust has its disabled workers DOING HARD GARDENING WORK AND STUFFING ENVELOPES and you have the cheek to try to justify these people having their old wage cut and being forced to work for nothing because they are training?

The garden centre workers were never consulted and were just expected to agree to work for nothing.

This is why Mr Hall went to the media and why Conservative MP Chris Grayling condemned the Trust's penny pinching.

Mr McCullagh also refuses to address the question I asked, which was who is looking out for the interests of the Old Moat Garden Centre's disabled workers when the organisation managing them , ' Priority Enterprises ' clearly puts the interests of S&BP , which its a part of, before the interests of its workers?

Would you please answer the question Mr McCullagh as you have set yourself up as the Head of Communication for the Old Moat Garden Centre workers when it is clear that they were not happy having their money cut to suit well paid non-healthcare Trust managers like you.

How much do you get Patrick?

Come on, you have made a real pigs ear of handling the deserved Bad Publicity Surrey & Borders got in the media , so how much are taxpayers forking out for you? I suggest they are being shortchanged.

Finally, the Surrey and Borders NHS Trust is experiencing financial difficulties because in January this year S&BP reported a significant operational debt. For more go here Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Trust Self-Declares £751,000 debt

Care to explain that little oversight Mr McCullagh?

Here's McCullagh's Official Statement

Work Services Review Statement

Work services in East Surrey and Mid Surrey and East Elmbridge are being re-modelled following an extensive consultation which was led by East Surrey PCT. The consultation and consequent changes to work services in Eastern Surrey were undertaken because it is inappropriate for the mental health and learning disability Trusts to be providing this type of work environment; which is far better provided by voluntary and independent organisations, where people can be properly supported and work properly managed. The aim of the project is to provide appropriate therapeutic activities to prepare people who use our services to obtain paid work if they wish to do so.

The decision to end these payments was made because nationally these payments have been phased out by mental health and learning disability Trusts. The payments are a legacy of the days of large mental health and learning disability institutions when in-patients were rewarded for work or therapy-related activities.

This is now seen as an outdated practice which is not recognised by many mental health and independent sector organisations. In order to reflect modern practices in the work services in Eastern Surrey which clearly distinguish between paid work, voluntary work, training and therapy the Trust decided to end these payments.

The Trust advised people who use services who are currently taking part in therapeutic activities at Work Service centres in Eastern Surrey run by the Trust that these so-called therapeutic payments will no longer be paid after the end of May. This was communicated thoroughly thorough individual and group meetings which were supported by an independent facilitator.

Surrey and Borders Partnership Trust would like to reiterate that the stopping of these payments is not part of a money saving exercise and that it is not in financial difficulties as stated on the blog.

 
At 10:12 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am from Bedfordshire but what is happening in Surrey could too easily happen here.

Have been in correspondence with Mr Kinsey. Giving me the off pat responses he is giving others.

Have sent an FOIA request as to whom he consulted with, prior to making the decision.

I would advise everyone...wherever they are to be vigilant. What happens in one Trust, particularly if they are allowed to get away with it tends to happen in others.

Modernisation is a lame excuse for nonsensical acts of meanness.

 
At 10:45 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are right to highlight the national aspect of this problem as Surrey & Borders NHS Trust has, clearly indicated that its mean ' less is more ' approach to dealing with people with MH issues and learning difficulties is being co-ordinated and networked at national level in a top down way.

NIMHE are pushing this ' less is more' angle with its almost obsessive take on work as treatment and cure . This has got so bad that Surrey & Borders now really cannot understand what is wrong about cutting the pittance they were paying their garden centre workers as the NIMHE vision has become all and its rendered the people who are supposed to benefit from it completely invisible.

These disabled people were doing hard physical manual labour at Surrey and Borders commercial garden centre and then, to make the centre more attractive to private companies who were bidding to run it for profit, Surrey and Borders cut the workers pay.

People should write to the Richmand Fellowship, one of the unsuccessful bidders and ask them to comment on the issue of staff wages. They know what went on. What we are seeing here is a trade in vunerable people.

 

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