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Monday, June 12, 2006

Official Responses

It would be helpful to use this section to keep track of progress.

This e-mail from Janet Buckell, Peter Kindsey's PA appears to have been the standard response as it was copied to a number of other people .

From : Janet.Bucknell@sabp.nhs.uk
Date : Jun 8, 2006, 2.08 pm
Subject: Therapeutic Earnings


Changes to Employment Services for People with Mental Health Problems Managed by Surrey & Borders Partnership NHS Trust

Thank you for emailing me to express your views regarding this matter. This is a local issue in eastern Surrey which we are discussing with our stake-holders. Changes to therapeutic payments are part of a larger change project which we are undertaking to modernise and improve employment services for people with mental health problems in line with recognised best practice. Those changes have been discussed extensively with our staff and people who use our services.


Peter Kinsey

Janet Buckell

PA to Peter Kinsey
Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Trust
Oaklands House
Coulsdon Road
Caterham
Surrey
CR3 5YA


The Patient and Public Involvment Forum set up to oversee the operations of S&BP has acknowledged receipt of complaints and has copied forum members into this ongoing issue. It is unclear as to whether the local PPI were aware of S&BP's intentions towards its disabled workforce at the Old Moat Garden Centre.

This is what Margaret Clarke , Forum Coordinator/Local Manager had to say.

From : margaretc@kmn-ltd.co.uk
Date: 07-Jun-2006 14:41

Subject: RE: Complaint About Workplace Discrimination - FAO Surrey & Borders PPI Forum

Thank you for your e-mail and apologies for the delay in responding but I have been on holiday. Your e-mail has been forwarded to the PPI Forum membership and it is an issue they are already aware of.
Peter Kinsey has written to Mr Hall regarding the issue of payment and will be copying this letter to the Forum (although it hasn't arrived yet). I will let you know the outcome of that letter.
PPI Forums cannot get involved in individual complaints but only general issues so I have forwarded you e-mail to Peter Kinsey and the PALS Manager for the Trust to keep her in the loop. Although Forum members cannot take up the case of Mr Hall, they can certainly pursue the issue of payments to service users in general.

If you would like any further information please do not hesitate to contact me either via this e-mail address or I can be contacted on 01293 817677 or 07817 536882.

Regards,

Margaret Clarke
Forum Co-ordinator/Local Manager

3 Comments:

At 1:34 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

----- Original Message -----
From: Fiona Edwards
To: P Tovey
Cc: Elaine Gould
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: FOIA Request


I am writing to acknowledge receipt of your Freedom of Information request. Your request has been forwarded to Elaine Gould, Head of Healthcare Records to action.

Fiona Edwards
Chief Executive
Surrey and Borders Partnership NHS Trust
-----Original Message-----
From: P Tovey
Sent: 12 June 2006 11:18
To: Fiona Edwards; Elaine Gould; Janet Buckell; GRAYLING, Chris
Subject: Fw: FOIA Request ..31st May 2006 Surrey & Borders


Please receipt this email because your server apparently is problematic and the email is "bouncing" - the problem is your end not mine .

Please Repond to the FOIA requests below .

P Tovey

Independent Monitor Group On Mental Health Matters


----- Original Message -----
From: P Tovey
To: fiona.edwards@sabp.nhs.uk ; elaine.gould@sabp.nhs.uk ; janet.buckell@sabp.nhs.uk ; GRAYLING, Chris ; JONES, Lynne
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:33 PM
Subject: Fw: FOIA Request ..31st May 2006 Surrey & Borders


FOIA Request:

I will send this again to you because no-one appears to have responded by way of receipt to my previous FOIA request which is repeated herein and below this one

I also note in an email today of 8th June 2006 (Janet Bucknell ) the following is stated (in red for ease )


"
Re: Changes to Employment Services for People with Mental Health Problems Managed by Surrey & Borders Partnership NHS Trust





Thank you for emailing me to express your views regarding this matter. This is a local issue in eastern Surrey which we are discussing with our stake-holders. Changes to therapeutic payments are part of a larger change project which we are undertaking to modernise and improve employment services for people with mental health problems in line with recognised best practice. Those changes have been discussed extensively with our staff and people who use our services.



Peter Kinsey "



I draw your attention to : "Those changes have been discussed extensively with our staff and people who use our services. "


Would you please confirm you have discussed matters "extensively" with the local PPI too and can you provide some evidence of that ? This is an FOIA request .


Thankyou for you attention


P Tovey


Independent Monitor Group Mental Health Matters


----- Original Message -----
From: P Tovey
To: janet.buckell@sabp.nhs.uk ; elaine.gould@sabp.nhs.uk ; fiona.edwards@sabp.nhs.uk
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: FOIA Request ..


FOIA Request :


Dear Janet

I understand Peter your boss has taken certain measures regarding a Trust run /supported Local Garden Centre which has service user clientele. Apparently Peter wishes to deprive patients of small amnounts of money they are being given as support and incentive by the Trust.

Would you please send me in pdf/email form or otherwise in other wordpad-format , the documents that support Peter's way forward.

These might be in the ready form of parts of Board Papers and or some other ready form .

I look forward to hearing from you



P Tovey


Independent Monitor Group on Mental Health Matters ..

 
At 1:41 am, Blogger simply human said...

Thanks Paul

I was wondering when people were going to start to write to S&BP Chief Executive Fiona Edwards as Peter Kinsey is well placed enough to prevent it from getting to her.

This is a bad business .

 
At 10:10 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dealing with the elusive and seemingly unaccountable 'Priority Enterprises ', the business arm of S&BP.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I understand that you are having some difficulty repondong to Jill G about the issue highlighted here ( link to this blog )

I trust there is a perfectly reasonable explanation for your reluctance to communicate with Ms G on this matter as I share her concerns about your involvment in this mean spirited affair.

Please acknowledge receipt

From: JJo.O'Neill@sabp.nhs.uk>

Subject: RE: Exploitation of Old Moat Garden Centre Workers

I am in receipt of your email and Jill G’s email and have passed them onto the Acting General Manager of Work Services, Declan Flynn to respond.

Jo O’Neill

Work Services Secretary


From: Jo O'Neill
Sent: 13 June 2006 09:13
To: Declan Flynn
Subject: FW: Exploitation of Old Moat Garden Centre Workers
Importance: High


Declan

Can you respond to this – the Jill G email was about payments to clients from ‘UK Survivors Group’ which I emailed to you and gave you a copy to show Peter Kinsey.

Jo

From declan Flynn to Jo O'Neill

Dear Jo

I discussed Jill G’s e-mail with Peter and he did a response (see below ) to those who have e-mailed concerns - which included Jill G. It appears that Jill has not received it for some strange reason - therefore I must apologies for this if this is the case.

Can you forward Peter’s response to Jill and include my reply as well.

Many thanks

Declan Flynn

Acting General Manager


Copy of Peter Kinsey's response

Thank you for emailing me to express your views regarding this matter. This is a local issue in eastern Surrey which we are discussing with our stake-holders. Changes to therapeutic payments are part of a larger change project which we are undertaking to modernise and improve employment services for people with mental health problems in line with recognised best practice. Those changes have been discussed extensively with our staff and people who use our services.

Peter Kinsey

The problem is Jo and Declan copied me in but not Jill.

Any chance of posting the questions you asked of Priority Enterprises Jill so we can compare them to Peter Kindsey's dismissive my your own business brush off.

 

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